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  • jordan avatar

    The Open Question March 18: How do we reason about the future given AI? I find this topic extremely perplexing, and endlessly fascinating.

    • What are we raising our kids to be ready for? What skills don't matter anymore that we used to hold sacred, and what do we need to emphasize?
    • Will we have universities?
    • Where to invest time/energy?
    • Where to invest money? Will money even matter?
    • Purpose and meaning, etc... 

    especially when I factor in stuff like Nate Soares talking about If Anyone Builds It Everyone Dies, Rob Miles and Jeffrey Ladish communicating the wild risks involved in AI acceleration, there's almost too much to contemplate at once, and I'd love y'all's help.

    Some convos already on UpTrust that might be relevant:

    • Blake on AI collaboration
    • Tommy on TikTok brain with AI
    • Renee on Older people adopting AI
    • Leif on Digital Mystics
    • Alex on AI & the Second Coming of Christ
    • Dave on an AI Safety introduction he likes

    #openquestion 

    jordanSA•...
    Critical thinking is similar to what @laymanpascal pointed to here. I agree. We need more of it for adults too :) I hadn't thought about survival skills as the most natural version of natural consequences, but you're right....
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  • jordan avatar

    The Open Question March 18: How do we reason about the future given AI? I find this topic extremely perplexing, and endlessly fascinating.

    • What are we raising our kids to be ready for? What skills don't matter anymore that we used to hold sacred, and what do we need to emphasize?
    • Will we have universities?
    • Where to invest time/energy?
    • Where to invest money? Will money even matter?
    • Purpose and meaning, etc... 

    especially when I factor in stuff like Nate Soares talking about If Anyone Builds It Everyone Dies, Rob Miles and Jeffrey Ladish communicating the wild risks involved in AI acceleration, there's almost too much to contemplate at once, and I'd love y'all's help.

    Some convos already on UpTrust that might be relevant:

    • Blake on AI collaboration
    • Tommy on TikTok brain with AI
    • Renee on Older people adopting AI
    • Leif on Digital Mystics
    • Alex on AI & the Second Coming of Christ
    • Dave on an AI Safety introduction he likes

    #openquestion 

    TrustTheJourney•...
    AI can be a trap, but it can also be a tool. When the internet first became popular in the mid-1990s, many people believed that it was full of porn. Everyone was afraid of the unknown and making up stories to support their fears....
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  • jordanSA•...

    AMA with Tim Urban

    Wednesday, 3/4 at 2:00 PM CT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJqtVCgxXTE  Post questions you're curious about here, and continuously during the conversation....
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  • as seen on tv avatar

    Money is on the move. But where does Yahoo Finance say it's going?  

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    Photo above - an authentic 2024 summer Olympics gold medal, already displaying corrosion. Hey, isn't there some sort of test to prove if gold is real or not?

    Okay, let’s assume you’re like everyone else. Your money is in 3 piles: stocks, bitcoin, and maybe precious metals. Let’s ignore the 1,000 pieces of crypto currency spam we get each month, and look at the actual numbers on how those investments performed over the past 30 days.

    The loser is . . . Bitcoin. Down 25%. You’d never know it from me in basket, though. The emails are hyperbolic: It’s going to the moon. Buy buy buy.

    Second to last . . . US stocks. Off 1% (just the S&P. The broader NASDAQ is down 3%). That’s 12-36% annual capital erosion. AI fears, tariffs, and the rise of the $1,000 car payment and $1,000 electric bill are in the mix as reasons. I personally know 2 people with $1,000 a month car payments. Didn't ask about their electric bills. It's still winter-ish here in Florida.

    The winner? Gold. Up 2% for the month. 50% for the past 6 months. 80% for the past year. See yahoo finance link at bottom.

    Okay, so money is fleeing crypto and stocks, and taking shelter in gold. Please do NOT construe my column as advice to do the same.

    I also took a look at foreign stock markets: let's see what’s happening over there:

    FTSE index (London Stock Exchange) up 6%. Dollar fears appear to be real, although I’m not certain the British Pound is going to dethrone it as the planet's reserve currency.

    Nikkei 225 (Japan) up 8%. It seems somebody isn’t taking China’s belligerence seriously.

    Shanghai (communist China). Up 1%. Take your chances here, I guess.

    I’m not doing a deep dive into India, Germany, South Korea, Ethereum, Silver, and collectable cars. They all have their fans. I’m just not interested of staking my financial future in those areas.

    The biggest individual stock winner in the USA? Ticker symbol "TCGL". Went public last month at $8. Up 3000% now. $1 billion loss last year, before the IPO. $3 billion in market value - small cap. TCGL sells software security Cambodia, Brunei, and Singapore. A region which probably has a huge number of software attacks.

    The biggest stock loser in the USA? Over a dozen stocks lost 90% of their market value. Most of them appear to be US listings for obscure Chinese companies.

    Don’t say you weren’t warned.

    Markets: World Indexes, Futures, Bonds, Currencies, Stocks & ETFs - Yahoo Finance

     

    https://finance.yahoo.com/?guccounter=1
    BrianHill2393•...

    I would be wary even with official claims. But they are definitely more reliable than the ones from sketchy sources. 

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  • ashok•...

    MindWatching

    Metacognition for the intelligent human. As a teacher of critical and creative thinking I have always been enthusiastic about nurturing complex thinking capabilities....
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  • W

    Has the Left changed that much? During the Obama administration ICE used the exact tactics they are using today.  There were no riots or protests.  What changed?

    jocawrites•...
    You mention "exact tactics," but in order to have a meaningful discussion, you probably should outline those tactics that you believe similar. Even better would be to provide sources substantiating your claim....
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  • N

    Why would anyone post here if this is going to just be another data harvesting platform to feed AI? . This looked like a promising site, but it just seems like more of the same - give your brain away to the LLMs.  No thanks.

    ClarkRC•...

    Can you clarify what you’re basing that on? Right now it sounds like an assumption, not a supported claim

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  • C

    The Cost of Letting main stream media and social media Do Our Thinking. Lately I’ve been thinking about how both the political left and right are pushing narratives through social media, and a lot of what’s being shared is made up of half-truths or no truth at all. It feels like emotions are being intentionally poked and prodded to build followers around ideologies, not facts.

    Honestly, you can’t even scroll social media anymore without stopping to ask yourself, “Is this actually true?” And that the norm now.

    Before you can even consider the message, you have to research it just to figure out if it’s real. That alone tells me things are out of control.

    What worries me most is how much of this stuff gets absorbed emotionally. A lot of people don’t consciously assess what they believe or take the time to verify it. If something aligns with how they feel, it gets accepted and then repeated.

    Sometimes something goes viral almost instantly and gets accepted as truth, whether it’s fact or fiction, simply because it hits people emotionally.

    And I get it. When something hits you emotionally and connects to a belief you already have, human nature is to accept it as truth, because our own biases want us to believe it.

    If this keeps going, I really think it damages our ability to function as a country, because we lose a shared understanding of what’s real and what isn’t. Everything becomes narrative instead of truth.

    I think part of the problem is that we’re becoming mentally lazy. We stop thinking critically and let confirmation bias run unchecked, and it just keeps building on itself.

    The solution is simple, even if it’s not easy. Slow down. Question what we’re seeing. Separate facts from feelings. Think logically before reacting emotionally. Truth shouldn’t depend on which side it benefits.

     

    Just something I’ve been thinking about.

     

    v/r Russ

    www.linkedin.com/in/russellclarkwy
    ClarkRC•...
    That’s actually kind of what my post was about. When we start calling whole groups “low IQ,” make blanket claims, and say one side is pure good and the other is pure evil, we stop thinking critically and start reacting emotionally. My point wasn’t left vs right....
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  • UpTrust Admin avatar

    AMA with Hannah Aline Taylor. Wednesday 2/4 at 4:00 PM CT

    love, boundaries, and mistakes in relating, community, and peopling together (+ thank god love doesn’t look like you expect it to)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNYNL05PRBQ
    JulieI•...
    But when you are teaching or trying to construct better ways of doing something... clear understanding is important. And, you are not perceiving or wondering about my intention at all....
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  • UpTrust Admin avatar

    Incorruptible Organizations AMA with Eric Ries. Wednesday 2/4 at 3:00 PM CT

    Lean Startup author who now focuses on legal structures to protect mission-driven organizations from corruption. incorruptible.co

    Free book giveaway! Register here.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNfb54LuzwI
    eric.ries•...

    If this was true, there would be no exceptions. And yet, there are. Give some thought as to why that might be

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  • ClarkRC•...

    The Cost of Letting main stream media and social media Do Our Thinking

    Lately I’ve been thinking about how both the political left and right are pushing narratives through social media, and a lot of what’s being shared is made up of half-truths or no truth at all....
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  • annabeth avatar

    Looking for bridges in views about the second Trump administration. I'm currently aware of four views:

    • This is the worst thing ever, I'm terrified
    • This is the best thing ever, I'm thrilled
    • I don't pay attention to politics, so far my life feels exactly the same
    • Some of the changes seem pretty cool so far, but we'll see

    Where are the middle grounds? I want to know how to build bridges in my personal connections when politics comes up these days.

     

     

    FlyingDaisho•...
    100 percent agree. It is so easy to hear a narrative that catches you emotionally one way or the other and latch on to that information as true. I rarely in day to day life find that people explore the truth of these ideas, rather travel the path of least resistance and trust...
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  • MysticLedger•...
    I'm here as a Hermetic-leaning skeptic who still believes truth matters, even when our institutions and traditions keep getting it wrong. I'm less interested in defending fixed beliefs than in stress-testing them - religious, political, and "scientific" - to see what actually...
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  • M

    The concept of this app sounds promising. Do you think the internet can be a place for deep and meaningful conversations in this day and age?

    TRG•...
    I agree.  My question would be this.  How do we sort what is a lie and disinformation from what is accurate.  I won't even say true.  Just accurate.  I try to maintain a balanced set of inputs.  So as examples, on XM, I listen to Patriot, Urban, Progress, and POTUS....
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  • tommy avatar
    AI gave me TikTok brain. I fell into a pattern of ask ChatGPT first, think second. And it caused me to think less for myself. Any problem or idea with building my business, writing software, etc. my default would be to ask ChatGPT, read its response, then start thinking about it. It fried my patience for my own thoughts the same way that TikTok brainrot fries attention spans. I was looking for immediate answers and that cheap quick dopamine was giving me the illusion of productivity.
    Now that I’m aware of this trap, I try to think through things on my own first, then ask AI an open ended version of the same question (to avoid steering it to my same conclusion), and use its response to challenge/refine my thinking.
    Tariya•...
    I’m also guilty of this, and I came to the same conclusion. It didn’t take long to realize that when you ask ChatGPT the right questions, the ones that challenge your thinking rather than steer it, you can get some really valuable responses....
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  • zookatron avatar

    All over-generalizations are harmful, even this one. How can we achieve brevity in communication without clinging to oversimplified models of the world?

    jordanSA•...
    I love both of these. my words... seeing individual claims as whole-parts of a larger whole surrendering to the vulnerability of incompleteness in service of arriving in ever-larger truths (that perhaps can only be held by multiple people) Thanks for helping me name these with...
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  • zookatron avatar

    All over-generalizations are harmful, even this one. How can we achieve brevity in communication without clinging to oversimplified models of the world?

    dara_like_saraSA•...

    Initial thought experiment is to zoom out on individual “claims” and instead view them as part of the larger truth- my over-simplification is expanded by what you say next. 

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  • blake avatar

    The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, probably via use of the word "optics" ;) . I've been reading the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (abridged*, of course, at least to start with!). New to the topic, and I’ve never identified as a history buff, but I’m really loving it. I wanted to write a short post about it, but couldn’t quickly figure out how to say what I wanted briefly, so here’s a long one!

    It feels like a bird's-eye view of modern politics, in many ways, but especially regarding "The American Experiment." I'm sure this comparison isn't new--it's probably a huge part of what makes Decline and Fall popular today, despite being published in 1776. Since there's a whole trope about Rome buffs, I imagine many of you have hashed over all this a ton previously.

    The early part of Decline and Fall starts with how amazing Rome was. Of course, it built on other civilizations and governments that came before it, but I think we these days have a hard time imagining just how surprisingly modern it would seem to us, if we were transplanted to the Roman Empire in its heyday. Of course we have tons of hard tech they didn't. But on the social level, I think a lot of it would feel spookily familiar. (I’m sure the author and I are both missing or leaving out huge ways it’s different. But I think there’s still a lot we can learn from it.)

    Widespread assumption of and dedication to: rule of law, trial by peers, market-based economy. And somehow the start of the Roman Empire manifested a deep dedication among citizens and leaders to a Republic as the form of government. No nepotism, no monarchy, no might makes right. Government of the people, by the people, for the people, at least in spirit--my sense is people and government and military were all aligned in their dedication to that spirit. 

    And peace! Peace, for centuries, throughout a huge swath of the known world, where that hadn’t happened before. There was a kind of national religion they inherited from the Greeks, but they seem to have been even more dedicated to religious tolerance than to their religion (prior to Constantine and the Christians taking over). Sure, there was kind of constant fighting on the edges of the empire, including always against the pesky Gauls and German barbarians, who really hated the idea of being part of the big empire. But mostly, and especially compared to times before in much of Europe, you could live safe in your home with your family, for generations even, protected by law-abiding and law-enforcing local authorities, backed up by the Roman army when needed, truly answerable to the people through the representation of the Senate, such as it was, and it was pretty great as far as I can tell. 

    Now, the bird's-eye view of the modern USA comes in when, generation after generation, leader after leader, eventually monarch after monarch, the common-knowledge shared dedication to being a Republic and to all the ideas above, faded over time. First, one or two leaders came along who had enough sway over the army and enough popularity with the people that they were able to, against the grain of all Republic dedication, declare themselves effective leaders of the empire. First humbly, as first-among-many. Then with time, openly and pompously. Then with more time, it became obvious to everyone that the Republic was only a Republic in name, that it was just obviously "the way things worked" that the army effectively got to decide who became emperor, and that as soon as the army switched loyalties, you'd better be ready for a change, including probably a bunch of people getting killed for being on the wrong side. 

    The thing about Decline and Fall, wrt this kind of degradation, is you get to read real human stories of this happening, again, and again, and again, and again. The same patterns, the different humans with unique circumstances playing them out. 

    Why did the dedication to the original ideals degrade with time? I think the same natural processes, and lack of opposing processes, have led the US and myriad other democracies down similar paths over time. People and groups learn to subvert the system to get more of what they want in the short term, sacrificing the common-knowledge dedications and ideals that support the good things they have in the world. They pay less attention to the whole than is needed to maintain it. 

    I'll name what I see today as one instance of roughly this kind of degradation, and I hope it's a little spicy. I have been part of many, many conversations in organizations where, when discussing some strategic question for the organization, the word "optics" comes up. For the uninitiated, the word "optics" in this context means: people could see what we're doing and have interpretations of it. We don't want those interpretations to have bad consequences for us. So let's be sure to include in our strategizing some component of consideration for trying to get people's impressions (the public, journalists, stakeholders, or etc) to be at least neutral. I can understand that. But I want to live in a world where we're creating the whole we want, not mostly attempting to persuade or convince or if nothing else not be noticed by parts of society that IMO we ought to relate to as peers. If we all practice distrusting our peers' sense-making processes in this way of strategizing about "optics", we'll all end up with a society with worse and less sense-making. So what do I want instead? I want us to take actions with integrity. Yes to being aware of our reputation (individually, organizationally, etc) and acting with integrity.

    (*The abridged version I landed on, after some back and forth about versions with Claude, is the Womersly version. I love it. You get 100-200 pages of the above, which was just right for this first-timer.)

    #DeepTakes

    blakeSA•...
    Your question about other things besides optics was a part of it. Pete's take about my optics alternative being incomplete felt like a big chunk. Easier to see with hindsight!...
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  • Y

    Who am I to decide? California General Election is here and once again I’m asked to decide the fate of a few propositions which I believe I’m in no position to make decisions on.

    For example, Prop 2 an 4 are asking for $10B of debt each to fund various important things. Who am I to decide whether that’s a good idea or not? I have barely a clue about the inflationary monetary system we live in and no idea where its limits are. What percentage of state budget does debt interest constitute? Is that too much or on par with the state economy?

    Then there’s rent control, minimum wage increase, and a few other, highly debatable props, which I’d guess even the experts would be lost trying to predict the effects of.

    Do I assume the government has done their due diligence and my vote is simply a measure of trust?

    I feel overwhelmed by the lack of data, expert guidance, anything of real value to me, the voter. I’m only given a few cursory meaningless numbers and a bunch of emotional arguments in the official voter guide.

    How do you decide on things like that? Do you do your own research? Do you look at endorsements? Do you use your intuition?

    jordanSA•...
    Oh, another thing I notice is that I generally tend to think about things in a much more metasystemic way than almost everyone I meet, so I try to remember that in my critiques. Sometimes I’m seeing stuff that the lawmakers or researchers or whatever hadn’t yet considered....
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  • xander avatar

    ... No belief is true, no matter how popular or plausible

    xander•...
    This is like saying it’s a shame that a knife might cut you when you use it like a screwdriver. It’s a knife, it’s not a multi-tool, or philosophy, or way of looking at the world, it’s a knife, designed to cut away the false....
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